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>> al jazeera america presents >> just because you're pregnant, don't mean you're life's ended. >> 15 stories one incredible journey edge of eighteen premiers september 7th only on al jazeera america >> tensions rising in ferguson as outside agitators make a volatile situation worse, and the islamic state group releases a gruesome video of a beheading of an american. those stories and much more it straight ahead. you saw what happened yesterday. as soon as the sun went down, it became violate with shooting at the police. >> we're not.
>> reporter: the islamic state group show beheading of american, james foley. >> now we're hearing throats to the u.s. >> we will drown all of you in blood. >> rocket fire from gaza was followed by rocket strikes from israel. >> calling for an immediate ceasefire talks. >> americans are taking paid vacation. >> americans take two weeks of paid rakes and then feel guilty about taking t. >> we begin with protests in the streets of missouri, as americans vent over the shooting of the death of 18-year-old michael brown. the peaceful protest became violent, and the police came under heavy gunfire. and while 52 people were arrested on monday, jail
records show 58 suspects were arrest, including 18 from out of state. >> the criminal elements that have come to ferguson and not from po month. some of those arrested came from as far as away as new york and california. >> meanwhile, michael brown's mother, leslie mcfadden, said that the protests will continue until the police officer who shot her son faces justice. >> he will bring peace, i believe. him being held accountable for what he did. did. >> a grand jury begins on wednesday, but were street clashes continuing and other violence, polic the police ask for protests during the day. so they can focus on violators at night. >> we don't want to waive anybody's rights. separate yourself. >> less go to ferguson, with
robert gray, and good to see thank you again. it seems that the people have not listened to captain johnson, and they're out there tonight. what's the mood on the street? >> that's exactly it, antonio. they were not out on the street during the day, and they did not listen to captain johnson. you can see behind me, they are peaceful. there's nothing going on that's out of the american choice here, and they are walking up and down in the about quarter mile space, going back and forth, saying hands up, don't shoot. so far so good from ferguson. a grand jury is set to hear the case on wednesday, and eric holder is coming to the area to supervise the response to all of this, and do you think that that might calm the situation? you know, people here want the grand jury, but they just -- a lot of the folks on
the street today say we hope that this is a fair grand jury, that over the course of the week, as the people look at the evidence, and what occurred is 1 days ago, they want it to be fair. as far as eric holder coming into town, i think that a lot of people would rather see president obama come here, at least that's what theory telling me on the street. >> school has supposed to start five days ago, and now it has been put off until august 25th. i realize that this is a small part of the town of ferguson. not everybody is out there on the streets, but are people in ferguson getting tired of the protests. >> absolutely. absolutely. i think that even the people out here protesting, a lot of the elders out here doing it peacefully. some of the folks, the reverends and the people who have lived here for a long time are tired of it. they want to see life back to normal, but the underlying current, they want to see
justice done for the shooting of michael brown. we have talked to a lot of students and a lot of kids walking around all day. and a lot of the moms and dads want to see their kids go back to school and return to a normal life. but they want justice, absolutely. a town of 20,000 people. and not everybody is out here. and we look at the arrest records showing that the big perjury percentage of people out here are not from the state of missouri. but they want peace and no tactical vehicles running up and down day and night. >> for more on the outsiders, who many blame for instigating much of the street violence in ferguson, i'm joined by justin law, who wrote a story that says that agitators have highlighted the protests. we have seen people from new york, california, illinois, texas, and other states who have been arrested.
who are these people, and how organized are they and what do they want? >> not very organized. some of the people that i wrote about in my story, the main group, agitating since wednesday, when it was a chaotic night, they are part of the communist revolutionary party, and they're a small group, less than a dozen people. but they took advantage of a situation last night where protesters got really close to the police line. and one of their people stepped in and basically tried to incite a riot. >> one of those people who was involved, you wrote about these guys. and you have seen a video of a white manning arrested, chanting revolution, revolution. you wrote about joie johnson, trying to incite a confrontation, as well as
people from ferguson trying to invent a confrontation. the kansas city star, this is something out of the distant past. he said we have a responsibility to be here. we are revolution ears, and we want an end to the system that criminalizes youth, specifically black youth. and what is it when you talk about communist youth and revolution. are they concerned that the protests are being hijacked? >> it is just a small element causing these fights and clashes with the police, and it's not just outsiders. usually what happens is late at night, they will come out, and it's not just about the death of mike brown, but it's heavy-handed police action, and it's not just
these outsiders. but i the first time that i've seen this. they're saying, you're not even from here, what are you doing here? we're here to get justice for mike brown, and we don't care about what your larger cause is. >> do you think that the outsiders are mostly responsible for the worst of the violence? the gunshots and the molotov cocktails? or is there enough blame to go around? >> it's really hard to tell. i think that the people most responsible are the small and they are biding their time. they wait until the older people in the community are gone. the peace keepers who don't want to rush the police line. they will wait, or move to the back of the crowd, and that's
when you see rocks and bottling thrown, and the police have cited molotov cocktailing thrown, and i haven't seen a single one myself, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. >> gregory johnson representing reuters and this is what he had to say. >> millions of people are living in this life of police brutality. and they're afraid that this rebellion is git spread around the country, and that's what's going on. >> does that kind of rhetoric have takers in ferguson? >> . >> i'm sure it does. people really paying attention to this, why is it that the police weren't able to identify these people as possible trouble make, before it was too late. they have not been here the whole
time, the group was responsible for getting people revved up in the crowd. and there was no doubt about it. they have pretty clear cut evidence that these are the people responsible for it. and i just don't understand why it took his efforts, and then the efforts of some people in the media to identify these people, and now the police are coming out and saying, look, it's outside people doing this, and it seems to me that that's intelligence that they should have gathered on their own. >> you talk about the young protesterse, and how much of a divide is it between younger people who don't want the violence and younger people, who are more hotheaded. >> the younger generation is out there, and they're clashing with the police as part of a reaction as what they feel is
margization and the targeting of black men, not just here, but in inner cities across the country. that's in the middle raining of people who identifies with the younger generation. and then there's the older generation, marching peacefully in the day. and they are kind of religious, and they have a religious aspect to what they're doing, and then there's the younger crowd that really just wants chaos. >> it's an interesting divide from the people in the community. thank you for bringing us your perspective. which appreciate it. with protests continuing in ferguson, people around the country are wondering when and how this is going to end, and whether the officials could have done more to keep the protests from being violent. for more, i'm joined in santa barbara, california, a one-time california police chief.
bernard, thank you for being with us, and the triggering incident was the august 9th shooting of michael brown, but when you look back at disturbances like this one, similar to the protest that hit cincinnati in 2001, the trigger is usually a flashpoint for an anger in the community that was always smoldering. based on what the protesters are saying, that seems to be the case with ferguson, should the protesters be aware that that was what was going on with their own community? >> first of all, thank you for having me on, and secondly, i think in hindsight these things are always clear. usually, the community resentment that expresses itself is too often ignored until these events occur. and as you say, the shooting incident in this case, because the death of mr. brown in flashpoint, but it's a lesson
to communities across the country. particularly where issues of race and economic disparity are concerned to pay closer attention. >> have local authorities made it worse if they didn't release information early, and then they time released the name of the officer that shot brown, and they showed brown robbing the store and intimidating a store worker. former cincinnati police chief, thomas striker, he said before officials are concerned, they have to engage the entire community and make them part of this resolution process. if they don't do that, they will fail. do you agree? >> i absolutely agree. the reality of this, and i've watched this, and as have others, that there was a time in the beginning of this, when it might have been possible to get control of this in a peaceful fashion. and once order is
restored -- and i have no doubt that it will be -- once order is restored, the community dialogue between the city leaders and the community leaders and the law enforcement will be absolutely critical for any success of anything that comes after this. and there are other flashpoints that have to be prepared. >> talk to me about this. violence, with people getting tired and we have seen this in the watts riots in 1965, but the reality is that the ferguson riots have lasted longer than the watts riots or the rodney king riots. >> there are two pieces that we have to look at. one is what is the role of people from outside of ferguson in inciting this violence is unrest. and today appear from news reports and sources that i have talked to inside of law enforcement, that there is a tension between the people who
live in ferguson and the people who come from outside of t that is going to be need ing to be resolved. and if the people from ferguson can get the handle on that, and that dialogue, the healing can start, but the healing has to be linked to the second part, which is planning for future milestones as this unfold. >> are you concerned about future flashpoints as the funeral for michael brown is set for monday? >> i would be concerned for that. and the officer needs to make a public appearance, and i think that all of this needs to be anticipated and planned for. combined with that is going to be the need for a steady flo of information to the public. >> do you think that as the
grand jury convenes, and eric holder shows up and he says that the justice deposit preserves the right to protest. but violence will not be condoned. and do you think that that will be a dooling of cooling of things? >> i think that eric holder's presence can't do anything but help. it certainly conveys the message that the top law enforcement official in this country is paying personal attention to what's going on there. and people i think need to realize that the real issue here is the death of michael brown, and the circumstances under which it occurred. and as long as we're dealing with civil unrest and violence in the streets, that underlying issue, in my opinion, the most important issue is not going to get his attention. >> i want to play something to
you that ferguson mayor, said. >> wanted vast majority in my community. and i'll put that in the 90th percentile, is absolutely supportive of what we're doing, and what we're going to do. >> do you think that that's true in the duration of the process so far? >> no, i don't. i suspect that 95 perfection of the people that the mayor talked to may feel that way. i think the vast majority -- i would suspect that the vast majority of the people in his community don the violence, and they don't want protests in the streets, but people are not satisfied with the status quo. >> it does seem to be a tremendous black-white disconnect where the events in ferguson are concerned. there's a new research pole that came out, saying that four
out of five blacks think that the issue raises racial issues, and only one-third of whites do. and 80% of blacks think that it has gone too far, and only one-third of whites disagree. african-american whites saw what happened in that crowd. and do you think that that issue explains part of the anger and the frustration? >> i think it is. and i think there's a tendency. those of us -- i've spent the last 40 years in law enforcement. and i've seen the changes in the police profession and the changes in american society. and they're profound. the reality in america today is different than the reality of america 40 years ago. but however, there is a sense on that one-half of the divide,
though things are much better than they were 40, 50 years ago, so everything is okay. on the african-american side of the divide, things are better, but we're a long way from martin luther king's dream, character. >> 40 years into policing, if they give you a call, what will you tell them to do? >> well, first of all, i would convey many towns in this country have faced similar chams. the need for openness and transparency about the policing process, which in many ways runs counter to the culture is absolutely critical. i think inviting in key members of the community. and developing a system to make sure that information is put out in a timely and rapid
fashion, because if you don't control the narrative, and if that's not jointly arrived at, there are people who are going to write that narrative for you, and it's not going to be the way that you want to. >> a pleasure to have you with us, and a pleasure to share your thoughts. coming up, disturbing video apparently showing the beheading of an american journalist. and rockets and missiles fly once more as peace talks between israel and it gaza fall apart. >> these young people deserve justice >> anatomy of a protest... >> ...the police look like they're getting ready to come down the street >> with militarized police departments >> forces their message... >> they're actually firing canisters of gas... >> a fractured community demands answers >> what do we want? >> justice! >> when do we want it? >> now! >> faul lines, al jazeera america's hard hitting... >> there blocking the door... >> ground breaking... >> truth seeking... >> we have to get out of here... award winning investigative documentary series... special episode
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>> a gus only video of the beheading of james white foley. they are warning that another american journalist will share the same fate. they are sharpening their attacks on the u.s. as the irachey forces reclaimed the largest hydroelectric dam from the group. and another video said that it will attack americans in any place as u.s. strikes islamic state group. join us us from washington d.c. is a retired army officer who served in iraq and led the
coordination of the search. doug, always good to have you with us, these is terrorists are buchers and they have been called monsters by other terrorists, rejected for their brutality by even al qaeda. what's your take on the attack on and the other journalist. >> the families have my sympathy, but we should not be surprised. the islamic state group is something that we have not seen before. it's like a different genre. the al qaeda and ira, these are terrorist groups, but they don't behead people and bury them alive, and run slave groups. this is a different form of brutality and inhumanity. >> we just saw the video where we see what we just saw.
they threatened the united states, and said that they will drown us all in blood if we continue to hit islamic state group fighters. does this brutality, another extreme of what we're used to with the horrors, does the tactic change what the u.s. is willing to do or should do to wipe out this group? >> i don't think so. if anything, it raisings the stakes, and i don't think it's going to cause american boots on the ground. and we're not going to go in there tomorrow. but we're going to see the redoubling of the united states resolve to help in the region, the islamic kurds. >> the iraqi army is being more aggressive, trying to take back tikrit from islamic state group on tuesday, and so far it has failed.
and is it impossible to defeat them unless we get alize among the sunnis, who at times have fought with them? >> we need to make alliances with the sunni, but what we saw today, the americans making advances on tikrit, they have not had much success, but when reinforced with u.s. air power, they're good enough to get the job done, and i suspect that's going to be our model going forward. >> but the u.s. air power, as you have written s. not enough to defeat these people. >> not in itself, but u.s. air power, in conjunction with the land forces with the iraqis and the kurds, is enough. overnight. >> what about help from the others?
saudi arabia has declared irs and al qaeda the number-one enemies of islam. and if we have countries like this getting involved, is that going to help? >> i think we're starting to realize that islamic state group is a real threat. and we welcome help from where everyone it comes. iranians are helping in some of the provinces, in iraq, and we never thought that we would be aligned with them. and turkey was instrumental in helping in the north. and certainly, we welcome help from any of the neighboring gulf states that want to help. this is a cross-cutting and realigning issue. whoever is willing to help us with the islamic state group is a friend of ours, and the converse is true. whoever is aligning with them or turning a blind eye may have their relationship with the united states reevaluated. >> and beyond the americans in
the region, what threat do they pose to the united states, if they continue to dominate an area of syria and oil. future? >> in the immediate future, there's adulate to the united states. as we have seen, the islamic state group is now the big kid on the block, challenging al qaedas the most capable terrorist group on the planet, leading the islamic jihad. the only thing that stands between taking the title is striking the united states homeland. al qaeda has accident and they have not, and we think they're going to try to remedy that in the future. >> thank you. >> thank you so much, antonio. >> turning now to a grown ceasefire between israel and
hamas. another break in the ceasefire on tuesday after rockets were fired by palestinian militants in latest violation of the ceasefire. four were killed. and dozens of others injured in gaza. at least 50 rockets were fired into israel. setting off air raid sirens. the rocket attacks prompted them to pull out of cairo, and now the palestinians say they're leaving as well. joining us, aljazeera correspondent, nick schifrin, and good to see you. the signs on tuesday from both sides were they didn't want to resume fighting. so what happened? >> good question, antonio. question definitely saw both sides indicating that they didn't want to return to war, but we have seen the most violent images in the last weeks, we don't know exactly what happened.
but we su we saw the hamas offis before they were fired into israel, we saw them saying that if netanyahu, the prime minister of israel, doesn't understand, we will make sure that he understands by military means. and we have also seen israel on its side target something that hasn't been targeted before. a very senior member of hamas' military wing were targeted tonight. and at least one of their homes were targeted. and that particular leader was not home, but his wife and son were killed, according to hamas officials and gazan mel officials as well. so we have a barrage of rockets fired from gaza, and airstrikes fired into gaza, and we have the only way of this, the delegations in cairo. the two sides, and always room in this region for violence after the fighting stops
quickly it resumes quickly, but right now, neither side is willing to do that. >> so not only isert neither side willing to keep talking in cairo, but also some words said by the palestinians that neither side seems to have really gotten very far in those negotiations as to what they're demanding. >> i think that we need to look a little bit beyond the rhetoric, and go beyond the detail. according to officials, there was progress coming into gaza, with a buffer zone created between gaza and israel. forces moving in instead of hamas, and officials moving into that border where some of the rockets were being fired. also n. the area now, gaza can't
effectively go beyond ten nautical miles. but fundamentally, the two are as far apart as ever. israel wants the demilitarization of gaza, and that's not going to happen. they have thousands of rockets, and ham as wants the israeli siege lifted and israel is not willing to let that happen. the two sides are very far apart. and if we can get them back to the table. if they can each go to a month and a half of fighting, but again, right now, there's no sign that that negotiation is right now. >> nick schifrin from jerusalem. thank you, and now for more stories from around the world.
we begin in liberia, where the 17 missing ebola patients who escaped from a clinic over the weekend have been found and placed back in quarantine. they escaped when the clinic was looted by an armed mob and stole sheets and mattresses that could further spread the disease. the death follow has now climbed to 1,229. next to ukraine, the government says that the president will meet with russian president, vladimir putin next week, along with other european union leaders. the deputy head of poroshenko's legislation called it a roadmap to a peace process. this comes as the rebels advance deeper. today, governor rick perry
of texas was arrested on abusing his power. after the today drunk driving arrest. perry's political action released a campaign video in his defense. >> i exercise this detailed funding for office whose leadership has lost the public's confidence by acting inappropriately and unethically. who conducted themselves in an incredibly inappropriate way, stopped for a dwi with a blood alcohol almost three times the legal limit. i wholeheartedly and unequivocally stand behind. >> david axel, the senior adviser for president obama, called it pretty sketchy. in tucson, arizona, we have
lost one of america's most familiar voices. don pardo, of saturday night live. he first became famous lending his baritone voice to the price is right. and he was with snl from the very first episode, only missing one episode. americans are taking less and less time off. also, so you want to have kids? you won't believe how much having a child is going to cost you, even before college. and later, two high-profile nfl announcers will no longer use the term, redskins. and others say that they will. >> it's amazing what some of us are willing to do for a phone. the leader
>> for most people around the world, mer is a time to kickback and take a vacation. but not if you're an american. american workers are not only taking fewer vacations than they used to, blue when they do, they're shorter ones. and when they do, the reason is simple. they don't want to look like they're replaceable and losing their jobs. a leader at san francisco state university, where he teaches organizational behavior and change. and mitchell, great to have you with us. job security, 22% of american workers surveyed say they are not taking vacations because they don't want someone to think they're replaceable.
is that something that should be a concern? >> well, whether it should be or shouldn'ter really doesn't matter. it's a concern for these people because they're afraid. they're afraid about out of sight, out of mind. if i'm away from the workplace and the work gets done, maybe i'm expendable. there are surveys that show that some managers are less likely to promote employees that take all of their vacation plan. and a study said that people who don't take all of their vacation time earn more than those who did. >> there are different with different cultures, some marks say you have to take your vacation, and there's research that shows that, depending on the job. if you work in a creative kind of job, getting a break and getting away for a week or two, and returning, i do a lot of
writing in my work, and i get writer's block sometimes, and if i go to the grocery store or jim, all of a sudden, things pop in my mind because i psychologically take a break. so i don't want to say all organizations are pro or anti-vacation, but others have a macho culture. if you do need a vacation, maybe you do need one. but the reality is, there are studies that show that people who take vacations end up being more productive. >> it's just healthy, you get away from the routine, and little things that may have upset you from the work place may have floated away because you came back with a different perspective, but what i would regard, since the downsizing era, there was a day in the united states where people could feel in control of their work situation.
if i work, and someone next to me works also at the same job, who didn't carry their weight and came late and was sloppy and got fired, i could rationalize that. but now i sit next to somebody who didn't downsize, but he seemed to work as hard as i do. and i can't control that. so that's what's scaring people today i think. >> and also, according to a survey. 40% of americans are not planning to use all of their time off this carry. year. and two of the most common reasons for doing that, they believe that nobody in their job can do their job while they're away, so it has a new name. it's called the work martyr complex? >> i would call itigo. who can do my job as well as i can do it.
you've heard this before. and what matters is people don't look at the quantative side. but the qualitative side. they look at the pile growing up. but if they can look back at the fresh perspective, they're going to come back to the pile. >> a lot of us who aren't taking the shorter vacations or when we do take a vacation, those who work with email at our jobs, are using email on vacation, and the problem has grown worse. in 1970, 80% of workers take a vacation, and now the number has declined. and the only 56% of americans
are planning on doing that now. and the bigger issue is the united states and it's policies. we're the only industrialized nation than doesn't have mandatory vacation x. when you look at these numbers, france has 30 days. there are only 13 countries in the world that don't have mandated vacations, so why? is this all about the american work ethic? >> not entirely. substantially, if there was a macho culture in the united states, and i don't mean that in the sexist male and female way, i hear them say, i don't need vacation, i can get by without it. and we also have to realize that in different countries, especially in europe, there are strong worker councils who look out for their people, to the extent that maybe our unions don't do here. it's not just the bad americans but it's institutionalized in
europe. but there's this sort of macho, i can get by, i can do it. and again, this gets back to what i was talking about earlier. what really matters to people is taking control. and if i can show my boss that i'm taking control by not taking a vacation, it feels right in the short run, but it's not healthy in the long run. >> mitchell lee marks, thank you. it's time to see what's trending on the web. >> a lot of us are attached to our phones to varying degrees. the leader of the chechen republic may be on the extreme end of that. he's very active on instagram and has half a million followers. it's an important part of his life. last year, he used it in his government and he found his dog with it. he at a museum, after having
announcements made over the speakers, the 57-year-old took it ever further. the chechen leader had more than 1,000 guests, including children, call back to be questioned about his phone. and he said most of them weren't able to go back until the morning. they have denied it. but it's not clear if the social media has found his phone, but he has been posting on instagram since. >> unbelievable. thank you. >> you're welcome. >> coming up, davis is 13 years old and just landed on the cover of sports illustrated but will this little league star bring big league change?
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food, clothing, childcare and healthcare, and education. the biggest expenses. 30% of the total. and that extra space for the baby is getting very expensive. the cost on its face is scary ier for the well to do. parents can expect to spend $400,000 to raise their child to the age of 18. but it's the lower income families that really get slammed. though households making $62,000 a year will spend less in total, that's that's a of lower part of their income. thank you don't want to live in areas of the northeast. it's much moreens spenciv much e expensive there. it the cost of raising kids went up by a little less than the rate of inflation, and the more kids you have, the lower
the expenses per child. bad news, median household income in the u.s., adjusted for inflation, has fallen by $5,000 a year since the the turn of the century, when the costs have soared. so parents, when your kid turns into a rebellious teen who shows no respect, show them this. and they will know how much you love them anyway. coming up, broadcasters will not use the >> on the stream, >> the usda pulls 770 inspectors from poultry processing plants. join us on the stream to find out what that means for your food safety. >> the stream on al jazeera america
america mobile app, available for your apple and android mobile device. download it now >> the controversy over the washington redskins name is heating back up. tony dungy and -- former broadcasters say that they will no longer use the redskin's names on the air. and other announcers say this they will continue to use the name and have set up different
policies on what to call the team. sports editor for the nation, author of brazil's dance with the devil, the world cup, the olympics and the fight for democracy, dave, good to see you, and nbc and fox say that it's okay for the broadcasters to make their own choice on what to call with the team. and some say that it's a control for the nfl. >> absolutely, especially since the nfl is very particular in making sure that it's broadcast partners are in line in saying yes, sir and no, sir and minding the ps and qs. so the fact that you have three major broadcasters saying that they are using the right to not saying the redskins brand, that's a huge deal. all of the merchandise that is sold with the exception of the
dallas cowboys gets pooled and divided among the teams, so if the washington brand is eroded it so dramatically, and by toney dung see making the statements, that hits the pocketbook of every owner, and creates more pressure on dan snyder to finally, at last t. to do the right thing. >> so he says that he's not taking sides over whether the redskins name is offensive but tony dungy said that it's personal, with the networks, and espn saying that it's going to continue to use the redskins name. and so other than the consequence that's you just talked about, that it's going to take money out of the owner's pockets, wha what are yu seeing? >> it keeps the story alive. trust me, think are convinced
that it's one of these stories with the next shiny bobble and the next controversy, like a kitten with a laser pointer, it's actually growing in power to get this washington tem to change the name. and when you have people like phil and tony making statements like this, then all of a sudden, it's a news story on espn, and it's something that's talked about in the mainstream sports pages, it gets people talking about it, and it flakes dan snyder more defensive, and whenever he's defensive, he's like a pr machine, like a gap monster, so any time, the movement to change his name gets that much stronger. >> it's a propaganda thing with native americans supporting the redskins. so now we have the skins, and
tony hasn't said the name, redskins on the air in three years, and he says that he doesn't see a reason to make a big deal about it. michael urban, a former cowboy said that he usually says washington, and do you think that the trend is going to grow? >> absolutely. i think that it only will build steam. and then you'll have less of a mealy mouth answer. and announcers will say if it offends people, i don't want to see it. and about the dictionary defines racial slur in the eyes of the united states of america. and it's not something that i am not comfortable saying, and let them fire me on that basis. >> for once on the show, something that's positive. because we have had a lot on the show tonight. renee davis, she's the first
little leaguer ever to make the cover of sports illustrated. she can throw a 70 miles per hour fastball. and she pitched a shutout in the little league world series. what kind of impact is this athlete going to have? >> you said it there, this is the summer that makes you want to live under your bed and never get out again. it makes you want to turn off your television and bury your phone. and renee davis is the kind of person that has the capacity to inspire. it's her attitude and her unbelievable skill. it's a reminder that there's no such thing as barriers, and they're broken by people that have the moxie and the will to do it. too often, that sounds like
somebody like norman rockwell. but when you have mo 'ne davis. >> do you think that there's a chance that be she could break even bigger barriers and play major league baseball? >> she has serious skills, and we'll see if that takes place. and if it does, it's going to make stories like jackie robinson and michael sams like pebbles in the ocean, a woman kicking butt in major league baseball, and i hope that i live to see the day. >> she's already an inspiration, and dave, good to see you. thanks. that's all for now, but the conversation continues on our website. see us on gobble plus, and twitter, aj consider this, and follow me on twitter at a mora tv.
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